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to have you on the show. >> honored to be here. >>> straight ahead, for all the talk on china, policy expert said their gain could be ours, too. the guest spot is next. but when i was in an accident... i was worried the health care system spoke a language all its own with unitedhealthcare, i got help that fit my life. so i never missed a beat. that's health in numbers. unitedhealthcare. i get congested. but now, with zyrtec-d®, i have the proven allergy relief of zyrtec®, plus a powerful decongestant. zyrtec-d® lets me breath freer, so i can love the air. [ male announcer ] zyrtec-d®. behind the pharmacy counter. no prescription needed. >>> the chinese dragon is awake and ready to roar a. new report of the national intelligence council predicts within the next 20 years china will overtake the u.s. as the world's largest economy and suggests asia in general will have more overall power than the u.s. and europe combined. but before we freak out and preemptively launch economic warfare to stay on top, our next guest says america stands to gain a lot from china's growth and china's le
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their reactions next. can china take over america? is it already happening under our noses? why one author says absolutely, yes. also, ford motor company under fire for misleading customers. it's enough to make your blood boil. we'll weigh in on the hybrids' possible false advertising. we're on the case next on "the willis report." tracy: speaker boehner warning the white house to be serious to call cliff, and the majority leader throwing in the towel saying it's difficult to reach a deal by christmas. crazy. with more, senator barrasso from wyoming. do you have any idea what's in the counteroffer? >> i don't have the final details on that, tracy. we have to avert the fiscal cliff. my concern is it drives us into recession, knocks up employment up, and i agree with you, we have to ensure more people have more of their own money in the pockets to decide what to save, spend, what to invest, and anything that hurts our fragile economy, i think is bad for all americans, especially those like you talk about, trying to put food on the table and get the kids to school. tracy: anything you come to the
% to the upside. some excitement over the iphone 5. how is this for a order in china. brenda marshall says china unicom has more than 300,000 people on the waiting list. nicole petallides with talk about this earlier, but that is enough to boost the stock. sales in china friday, can you imagine the lines? sec don't airlines is soaring. up nearly 6%. delta says they will buy 49% of virgin atlantic. the price tag more than $300 million. and arg runnin rounding out thep three. treasury department selling remaining stake in insurance provider that broke yesterday, but today the flow continues into aig stock effectively closing out the largest government bailout since the financial crisis hit in 2008. let's look forward, all that and the start of a two-day fed meeting. the traitors all over the place. your stock exchange, cme group and the nymex. looking at a day like this, we're up off of the highs because we have a higher 36 points on the dow but is a pretty decent day when there is still no real clarity in the beltway, what is it that has people so positive? >> as you mentioned this is five update
line of mac computers in china, apple is set to bring some of its manufacturing jobs back home to the usa. is this a political move or is this a clear-cut economic manufacturing move? here to discuss is "forbes" columnist and china export gordon chang, the author of "the coming collapse of china." serious question, do you think actual's doing this for politics or economics? >> actually both. but when you look at china, though, their manufacturing days are over. americans are less produmore pr less prone to strike -- >> are you sure american works are less prone to strike? we've reported on this show a whole bunch of strikes, including the hostess twinkie companies, the ports of los angeles and out on the west coast. we have obama in the white house. the unions are going whild here. in all seriousness, i don't think unions are any more placid here than they are in china. >> but in china, workers go out on wildcat strikes all the time. foxconn which manufactures about 97% of apple's products, they've been really subject to labor troubles, from suicides to strikes. so i think appl
worked until 66, but i was forced into retirement after my company said most of the job to china. all you have to do is look around and see owns all the gas stations and 7-eleven's. those people are the rich ones that come from their countries and turnaround and bring their servants with them. that is who is running those businesses. host: what do you think needs to happen in the next couple days before the end of the year? caller: one has to happen if the republicans have to agree on bringing the jobs back from overseas. the democrats could maybe agree on cutting back on some of these food stamps, especially for people that have come here and have never worked for the country and don't deserve it. host: on twitter -- another story this morning, this from "usa today." we are still getting your thoughts for the next five or 10 minutes in this first segment of the washington journal on john boehner's "plan b" that was released yesterday in case the negotiations break down over the fiscal cliff. william from north carolina is on our independent line. caller: i was calling to tell you that th
. >> turmoil in italy. berlusconi throws his hat in the ring. retail sales numbers out of china, hoping the economy is in fact on an upswing. >> apple, enthusiasm. jeffreys trimming its price target to 800 from 900, as apple shares do trade lower in the pre-market. we'll start with mcdonald's, posting better than expected november same-store sales, global comps up 2.4. u.s. same-store sales up 2.5, offered by breakfast offerings, including that cheddar/bacon/onion sandwich, as melissa mentioned. jim? people are saying the u.s. maybe is making a turn here. >> i find mcdonald's is levered to new products, levered to menu technology. they do invent things. my hat's off to janet. they had this number last week. reminds people, again, they've been right down, and up. mcdonald's is one of those things where joe asked me from squawk when we were talking, i said, i think this is a for real term. if they continue to innovate. i may this may not be your cup of tea, burger, but innovation s higher. >> they tried to sell it to consumers as opposed to their extra value menu, which is a little bit hi
at the first north american exhibit of work by china's ai wei wei. brown: antique wooden stools from the chink dynasty. a video documenting changes along a major street in beijing an ancient vase with a modern-day logo. now on display at the smithsonian's museum in washington d.c. in an exhibition called "according to what," these are the works by the chinese artist away way. a prankster who can make a tea house literally out of tea leaves and represents the surveil-camera that watches him at his home in china is a marble sculpture. he's a visionary who helped design the bird's nest stadium for the application and whose use of social media is shifting the boundaries of art and activism and a dissident. he took a picture and tweeted it even as he was being arrested in 2009. and then spent 81 days in prison, was beaten and made the x-ray image of the damage he suffered into an art work. >> for me living in today's world, if you live in china, it's very hard to do a work which is not... which does not reflect or suggest the other possibility and meanings. all the works i do which connect or refle
's turn to the global economy. associated press reporting that china has surpassed the u.s. as the leading trade partner. this comes as china announces the inflation rate rose 2% one month alone. sign of an economy gaining strength. what does it mean? brenda buttner, anchor of "bulls and bears." i was reading this article where shoppers in beijing have seen the prices of vegetables double in one week alone. inflation is a problem over there. what is causing it? >> basically it's not a bad problem, it's growth. china has numbers we can only dream of, growth of about 8%, we're below 2%. their factory output was up 10%. retail sales, 15%. so it is basically growth driven not supply side driven which is the kind of inflation you want to see. it's only 2%, that is well below the target of 4% is. it came down from 6.7%. >> gregg: so it's an issue not really a problem and outweighed by the huge growth. how does the inflation american consumers if at all? >> we buy a lot from china. it may be that some of the input may be more expensive. we may have to pay more, but it's more that china is becomin
think the world will look like. it's fascinating. it shows china on the rise, the west in decline and china overtaking the united states in size of economy by the year 2030. here are the key findings of the new intel report. it's interesting reading. a majority of the world's population by 2030 will be out of poverty for the first time in world history. there will be wars over food and water and natural resores. populations will continue to rise and there will be recurring global economic crises but when you think about this, you think about how far we're going here. you've got asia, china in particular will be dominant. it will be stronger than its been anytime since middleages. there will be no more pax americana as its known. china will be a big driver and india will be growing like china is today. they talk about how the world is changing. it's like no other time since the french revolution. remember in the late 18th century, the industrial revolution, except it's happening more quickly. it's taking a tenth of the time for china and asia to rise quickly. let me read to you som
for the group. he was promoted second-in-command earlier this year. >>> back to the economy now, china apparently going on an american spending spree. a chinese company agreed to buy a big chunk of insurance giant aig for more than $4 billion after the company got a huge bailout during the u.s. financial crisis. that is not the only bargain that china is picking up from u.s. taxpayers lately. stuart varney on this morning, head of "varney & company" on fox business network. good morning, stuart. good to see you. >> good morning, martha. martha: they're gobbling up our assets in many ways . what do you make of it. >> they are spending the money they have got buying american assets cheap. you mentioned aig. a chinese company is paying $4 billion for aig's plane leasing business. aig remember got $189 billion as a bailout fund that was back in september of 2008. the taxpayers still are the largest shareholder in aig. we sold the plane leasing business to china cheap. second item, a 123 batteries, americans taxpayers gave that company $249 million in grants and another 250 million in tax s
for its missile program in china. we know they buy things for their gas centrifuge program in china. some things are made in germany. probably made in the u.s. china has been a major gap in this whole system. on sanctions and north korea could face tougher action from china might constrict some of its ability to buy things that it absolutely needs for its nuclear programs. jon: you think it is likely american-made technology is helping north korea with its missile program? >> could be. i don't know the missile program nearly as well as the nuclear but what north korea does, it uses china a sense as a transshipment point because many companies, high-tech companies from america, from europe, have subsidiaries in china, selling to chinese industries and trading companies. north korea works that system very well to end up with those kinds of high-tech items from outside china. and so while i can't speak specifically on the missile program i certainly can on the nuclear and yes, indeed, north korea buys european high-tech equipment and likely u.s. equipment. so it's a problem. china has been m
about china electric demand being strong. remember, they make coal machinery, depending upon how much electric demand there is in china, his orders go up. that's why i think people are surprised the stock eel not down big, given his concerns throughout the near term. >> comments, the buybacks continue. >> now, i begin to say, wait a second. one buyback, maybe -- too much coincidence here. you have the news out of joint global. i think people are starting to say this fourth quarter's an inflection point for china. less worried about inflation, more worried about pro-growth. cummins is a uniquely chinese story. so many truck engines go there. let's keep track of this. >> a lot of people say if you've got gdp growing again and inflation as low as it is, that is the sweet spot, that is where you always want to be. >> india came out with global stuff. coal, i know, we're only used to seeing coal phased out in this country. they love coal in china. i don't want to make a judgment on whether that's -- but they are huge coal plant builders there. huge. >> an important one to watch. we'll talk
chrysler to italians who are going to build jeeps in china. strangers and ignoring our friends. the chill of peppermint. the rich dark chocolate. york peppermint pattie get the sensation. >> cenk: politico is a fact-checking organization and they've been doing something over the last couple of years "the lie of year." >> obama: took g.m. and chrysler into bankruptcy and sold chrysler to italians who are going to build jeeps in china. >> cenk: oh, my god, they're moving all the jeep jobs to china. then the ceo put out a statement. i feel obliged to state our position. jeep production will not be used tofrom the united states to children. it is inaccurate to suggest anything different. they knew it wasn't true, and even after this statement mitt romney kept saying over and over again, they're going to move all the jeep jobs to china. can you believe it? so that wound up being lie of the year for political fact. they asked readers to pick out the top lies of the year. the top five. here's the first one. >> what we now have is the biggest tax increase in the history of the world. obama-care
. >> brian: millions of dollars in a green company only to sell it to china? stewart varney with another waste of your money. he's coming up now. ♪ it's my favorite time of year again and now -- i got a great new way to get deals. it's called bankamerideals, from bank of america. i choose the cash back deals in my mobile or online banking. i just use my bank of america debit or credit card when i pay. and i get as much as 15% cash back -- put into my account. this is cash back on top of other rewards i already get. best of all -- it's free. happy holidays. [ male announcer ] introducing bankamerideals, free for online banking customers. sign in to your online banking to choose your deals today. nespresso. where i never have to compromise on anything. ♪ where just one touch creates the perfect coffee. where every cappuccino and latte is only made with fresh milk. and where the staff is exceptionally friendly. ♪ nespresso. what else? ♪ >> gretchen: if you are just waking up it is 17 minutes past the top of the is it like a fire sale on america interest? china buying up u.s. compani
. ultimately it helped to work. a lot of people supported that. people say, apple, they do business in china. these workers are virtually slaves. i will never own the stock. if that is the case they missed out on an investment unless they bought two weeks ago, an investment of a lifetime. so where do you find the way to draw the line? i've got to tell you something, this thing is urban outfitters is more reflective of society, not a company of really the have garrity in society today amongst young people is at the point where i talk about this all the time. i think pendulum has swung so far it can't get much further. lori: do you the think the stock surge up 34% year-to-date, urban outfitters because of shocking nature of stuff? kids in way to rebel and spicy putting it as nicely as i can? what is going on with the store that is generating interest? >> they are ahead of the curve. real hip store called supreme. they have a location in l.a. and soho. urban bought them. it was a brilliant move. this was underground success. they sell it throughout everywhere. it is a real smart retail play. i
to health care i like it too. appreciate it. does communism pay a? it does for the chinese. 160 of china's 1,000 richest people have a collective network of $220 billion. those 160 people all hold key positions in the communist government. up next. stuart: senator harry reid blames republicans and says we are likely going to fall off of the fiscal cliff. rich edson on capitol hill, have i got the gist of it right? blamed the republicans, it is all your fault. >> that is about it. the senate wants the house republican conference to pass the bill the senate passed a few months ago and house republicans want to pass the bill they passed a few months ago. it is save to say we are basically where we started in this whole thing a few days before the fiscal cliff. dave: it is they fight. flat out political fight. i guess you can expect that as the deadline draws close but it doesn't take us any closer to any kind of deal, does it? >> if anything it takes us further from a deal and the quote from senate majority leader basically said the house of representatives is being operated as a dictatorship f
the new chain. burger king has similar joint ventures in russia, brazil, south africa and china. >> more than 14,000 dock workers on the east coast and the gulf are threatening to go on strike on sunday. brian takes a look at the impact it could have on the economy. >> they move everything from our clothes to toys and electronics through the ports and into the marketplace but a lot of the goods won't be making it to our stores in longshoreman at more than a dozen ports from main to texas go on strike. that's what could happen by sunday if a deal can't be reached between the major shipping companies and a union representing nearly 15,000 longshoremen. >> the impact would be great. obviously on the dollar value side. on the cargo handling side but also on the job side because again these sports are major economic generators. >> richard of the maryland port administrator and others say the economic damage from a strike would reach well beyond the docks. >> your mom and pop retailer to your farmer to the trucking company that has to pick up the container atmosphere the port. so not just at t
a satellite into orbit. its neighbors are unnerved. even china expressed regret at the move. the obama administration condemned it as a provocative act and will likely ask the u.n. security council to impose crippling sanctions. the pentagon following developments this morning. chris lawrence there. what do you know, chris? >> right now, officials say that object that north korea put into orbit, monitoring it, analyzing it, but they confirm it is in orbit. why is that important? the same technology you would use to put into orbit is the same technology you use to develop long-range ballistic missiles, the u.s. condemned this act. they are worried about the marriage of north korea's nuclear weapons with this long-range missile technology. this is the type of missile that if it was successful, as it appears to be, could reach parts of the united states, alaska, u.s. military bases in hawaii. but a u.s. efficiently i spoke with who used to work on north north korea for the defense department told me, there are still areas in which north korea has not made it as far as they would need to i
to be real focused. look at equities with a little bit of a china exposure because china is starting to bottom a little bit, we think, so that's where i would focus. the number one thing and the greatest clarity i have in 26 years in this business, stay away from interest rate sensitive bonds and stay away from bond funds, and that's what you need to be doing right this moment. >> so you go on equities then, all in in equities then? >> let me tell you, if you're going to be an investor for longer than two years, stay away. if you need fixed income, run away from interest rate sensitive bonds. >> what about the fiscal cliff, you think we get a deal by the end of next week? we going to get a deal? >> i don't see a long-term deal. >> it's pretty easy to come to that conclusion, brian, given the fact that they have had 13 months to discuss this and think about it and now we're down to 18 days to deal with medicare, medicaid and defense spending, what, social security, taxes. what else can we throw into the bucket? >> yeah. you can just throwing more and more in. i think it's clear that t
the underlying economy is improving. now you get china. if europe can stabilize, i think we can go much higher. >> how many days, if you add headline that monty was thinking about, going out and bursceloni was thinking about coming back. follow me on twitter. and "power lunch" begins right now. >> halftime is over. "power lunch" and second half of the trading day starts right now. >> and here we are. welcome to "power lunch." as you can see, we are beth here on the floor of the new york stock exchange. and stocks are higher as fiscal cliff song and dance continues in washington. mr. boehner says he is waiting for a proposal from this gentleman, the president. president obama. and the president is set to speak about the cliff and the a economy later today. >> i thought i was supposed to come here today. you thought you were supposed to come here today. so we are both here. not really, folks. a lot of talk today is about what investors should do if we go over the cliff. what should we do if there is a debt deal before year-end or shortly thereafter. we have smart strategies and individual stock
rate in china, and in a few years it will surpass the u.s. what it means, coming up. >>> dozens of homes damaged in the south, ripping off roofs and damaging trees. more to come. stamp watch, straight ahead. >>> lots to talk about this morning. the next two hours, we'll talk with steve israel. jeff sessions, sandy levin, rahm emanuel and businessman javier paolomarez, ed burns, frankie monday easy, and chuck leavell. "starting point" begins right now. welcome, everybody. "starting point" this morning, angry, united. bracing for protests in michigan as the state is poised to become the most unionized right to work state. as many as 10,000 unionized workers expected at the state capitol to voice their disapproval of the measure. some of them teachers, two detroit area school districts shut down for the day as hundreds of teachers plan to join the protest. president obama brought it up during a trip to a daimler truck factory in redford, michigan. this is what he said. >> this so-called right to work law, they don't have to do with economics, everything to do with politics. what th
unions d, as mark said, create a middle class. the problem is international competition. once in china and japan and all these countries start making stuff cheaper, it is problem for unions, and that is just a reality. >> it is also reality that some of that manufacturing is coming back, and not because of low wages. because of transportation costs, innovation, all kinds of things. what bothers me about this vote is that it was ught and paid for by a few wealthy people. the leader of the senate, the governor, both on record not want to do this initially . they did it turn around. and lost five seats and the legislature. >> you can look for all the conspiracy's you want. the fact is that michigan was adjusting to exactly the reality that evan isalking about, globalization. i think was glory days for the unions 94 is, 1950's, 1960's, when the rest of the world was devastated by the second world war, we had a monopoly and, yes, great benefits to it the problem is that when you have global competition, you are uncompetitive. detroit went bankrupt but the southern transplants did not. here
the jeep factory heading to china and the nonsense heading to work requirement for welfare and the pathetic claim that president obama spends his time out there in the world apologizing lost. it really did. and maybe, just maybe, the reason the people telling the most truth won. and the people telling the most untruth lost. it's for that very reason. we were, all of us, paying attention because it really mattered. that's "hardball" for now. "politics nation" with al sharpton starts right now. >> thanks, chris. and thanks for tuning in. tonight's lead, republicans are picking a fight they can't win. new evidence today that president obama is in a strong position in this nation's fight for fairness. and republicans are on the losing end of this fight. now, new polls show 65% of americans believe the president does have a mandate to raise taxes on the wealthy. 62% say he's got a mandate to protect medicare. and 64% says he's got a mandate to protect social security. that is a winning hand. the president has it and he knows it. >> i'm pretty confident that republicans would not hold middle clas
to bangladesh. they used to produce a lot in china. they've decide wages are too high in china. they moved toward bangladesh which has the world's lowest minimum wage for a country that does serious manufacturing about $37 a month. and walmart sears other countries look to bangladesh because they want to produce apparel at the very lowest cost and they're worried if they invest a lot more in, say in wages or fire safety, that might force them to pay $5 a shirt rather than $4 a shirt and they worry that will make them competitive. my sense is having to talk to experts is western companies import about $18 billion worth of apparel each year from bangladesh and it might cost a billion or $2 billion to get several thousand apparel factories in shape to prevent fires, to provide fire escapes to provide good, safe stairways for people to come down. and i think the thinking is that might raise the price of apparel by 2%, 3%, which wouldn't kill us if we have to pay 50 cents more for a $20 shirt. >> jennifer: that's the iss
it anymore. he wasn't satisfied with outsourcing thousands of jobs to low wage china when he was on the board of gateway computer. he wants to turn michigan into the same low-wage environment we see in china. >> reporter: as you look at state troopers out here right now, some are equipped with batons. look at their hips. what they have on their hips there are gas masks. you can see some weapons they're carrying. nonlethal weapons that would be used to dispurse the tear gas if it was needed to. as we bring up we heard someone shouting in the background it has been a peaceful demonstration. it has. there was trouble on the first day. eight people were arrested. a little bit of tear gas went out. here in this demonstration, things have been peaceful. nothing more than a lot of people showing up in numbers expressing discontent with the legislature and the speed with this legislation and speed which it moved through the legislature, jenna, mike, we saw a sign behind you. it said there is war on workers in the state of michigan. what is the primary gripe of unions and their members? >> reporter: w
. if you look at the facts, 32% of our manufacturing base has been gutted and sold to china, india, any foreign country that has cheap labor. the top patriotic american companies are parking their profits and offshore accounts so they do not have to pay a fair share of their taxes. the bottom line is since the late '70s, the wealthiest 2% in this country are making 25 times their wealth that they made a black -- back then. there are only paying 40% more in taxes. this country is doomed if we do not start putting terrace of the imports coming into this country. the republican party is selling you an outright lie. thank you. host: let's show you a facebook posting. the economist and professor at the university of maryland will be with us and about 25 minutes or so. he will take your calls and give you his economic outlook for 2013. he has written a lot on the matter. from west virginia, independent. caller: is, sir. i would just like to say that i am not very optimistic above the future of the united states right now. we are in so much that it is pathetic. our budget is way over. this pre
it over the last 8 years is to take out a credit card from the bank of china in the name of our children, driving up our national debt from $5 trillion from the first 42 presidents, number 43 ed a $4 trillion by his lonesome so we now have over $9 trillion of debt that we're going to have to pay back. $30,000 for every man, woman and child. that's irresponsible. it's unpatriotic. >> so, unpatriotic. >> the hypocrite in chief says in 2008 that 5 from is unpatriotic but now we're up to $16.4 trillion. that's okay. by the way we move my credit card limits. he doesn't want a debt ceiling going forward. >> debt ceiling no more can congress deal when the president says we're going to raise the debt ceiling. no squabbles back and forth. >> let me get this straight. borrow $4.8 billion a day and now we're coming to the edge ever the fiscal cliff. republicans are saying hey, let's continue the bush tax cuts, let's make this fair for everyone but let's stop spending. we are spending more than we have. democrats are saying now they are saying it doesn't matter, we are not focused on the deficit any
with this, the british, the french, the germans, russia, china, they all tend to view this as a proliferation problem. the conversation between iran and the other side tends to be about that issue, very narrowly focused. to kind of move that conversation, you have to figure out a different kind of architecture. the five plus one process, as such, is designed to deal with the corporation issue and the composition is that has to do with the iranian violation of the mpt and there have been 62 -- six security council resolutions that suggests sanctions. there are two countries who suggest that the issue between -- that this is not a proliferation issue but has to do with the character of the regime and one of them is israel who does not view this as strictly an arms dispute and the second one is iran who similarly suggests that although it is an arms control issue, they are really using arms control as a way to undermine the regime. there are two actors in this particular conflagration who are not accepting the argument being that this is about nuclear infractions as oppo
to help china, and china is the biggest abortion country in the world. when you throw all this into a big mixture, you cannot blame the gun. host: thank you for the call and comment. a bitter fight had on gun control, according to the washington post. we are following some of the options on what is next. speaker boehner is confronting a political cliff over the budget track is, putting out that the speaker's leadership and legacy remained at stake. they point out that in a show of support, house leader eric cantor. at a news conference with the speaker in a call to extend the tax rates. some have urged congressman tom price of georgia to challenge john deere for the job. much more on what is next for the fiscal cliff. one week before we reach that point. the deadline is december 31, january 1. the president is in hawaii. the house and senate are also in set -- in session this week. elliot engel, weighing in on a number of topics, including rumors that former republican senator chuck a bill could be nominated as defense secretary. you heard from the president on friday as he nominated sena
. as far as china is concerned, we don't tariff, we don't put that high of a tariff on their imports but yet i don't know the exact numbers but i believe it's a lot higher that they tax our imports in their country. and the whole thing with jobs. he created the apple scommuret in california in his garage but yet when he got successful he moves all his company over to china, giving chinese people jobs. if steve jobs was born in china he wouldn't even have a garage therefore he wouldn't be able to create the apple computer. so i just think we just don't do enough for the people of this country. and the people who are in position to create jobs and do this do not reinvest in the country. therefore i don't think they should get tax breaks. if you want to give these corporate giants tax breaks then give it to those who want to invest in the country, who want to create jobs here, not overcease, and they think try to think of ways to get their money over there into here lower than say the american businessman paying 35%. guest: i mean, i understand your frustration. i think part of it is th
by using cheaper labor in china. china's also got middle managers to run the factories. chinese workers have been trained in skilled positions for decades. those same skilled positions have nearly vanished here in the united states. and chinese labor is the reason apple can afford to train americans and pay american wages right now. look at this apple's net income. $41.7 billion over the last 4 quarters. that ain't bad. in fact, that's almost $7 billion more than the next six companies combined. microsoft, ebay, google, yahoo! facebook, and amazon. they can't keep up. cheap chinese labor helped apple make almost $50 billion in the next fiscal quarter, alone. those profits allow apple to finally do the right thing. they're going to hire more americans. the ceo says he feels the company has a responsibility to create jobs. we wish more ceos would show that economic patriotism. it's a heck of a start. let's bring in e.j. dionne, msnbc contributor and "washington post" columnist and author of the book "our divided political heart." e.j., we need more stories like this. what kind of skilled
this is a much more global story. i think a lot of backdrop in europe and china has some improving trends in it that are behind this. >> if the market is such a great predictor, tell me where it was in beginning of 2008. then we had a total collapse. so i don't buy -- >> my response would be look where it was in march of '09 when you could have -- [ overlapping speakers ] the valuations weren't reasonable then. they are cheap now and even cheaper outside the united states. >> yeah. you just made my case for why it is i feel like going outside the united states. i'll let america settle it and figure it out on its own. >> all right. john, what are your clients telling you right now? jeff just said i think it was over the weekend that so many of their customers are clenched right now. that they're just waiting to see what the resolution of the fiscal cliff is that they're holding back on orders. is that the case with some of your clients as well? >> well, i think right now we haven't received the clarity of the election we were hoping for. i think both sides republicans and democrats are bas
an originator of new kinds of policies. if you take, for example, china policy i think that he may be reluctant to react to a china which is very different from the way it was in the past. >> brown: let me bring david ignatius back. i guess it depends on what you think is needed right now, right? >> i think the world's a mess as kerry believes. he's right. and needs a strong american voice. needs the sort of steady hand that some of these experiences can bring. i point i would make about kerry is that although he often comes across as a stiff, as an establishment figure very form layic, in terms of shall ideas an willness-- willingness to engage adversaries, reach out and try to find a channel to iran, for example, reach out to the palestinians, try to think of new ways to deal with the arab world, kerry is on the more innovative side. so i think he is not going to be a wild radical-- the country will miss having someone like susan rice who is a younger, different voice. but i think that kerry-- it's wrong to think of kerry of just being a throwback to 30 years ago. >> brown: is it clear still
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